Comments on: Asshole Day http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/ WE’RE GIRLS. WE LOVE HOCKEY. WE WENT TO BOSTON UNIVERSITY, SO WE WATCH MIRACLE A LOT. Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:02:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.4 By: Be Smarter. | What's Up, Ya Sieve http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-23976 Wed, 22 May 2013 16:44:43 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-23976 […] Day, celebrated by Duncan Keith and Tyler Seguin with various sexist/homophobic/moronic remarks [link].  My inner publicist dies a little when this […]

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By: Lorelei6903 http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17910 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:30:27 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17910 Agree 100% with you Pants! Love WUYS’s posts; the sarcastic, satirical, downright hilarious posts, but today you were just pissed and I don’t blame you. These guys have to remember that what they say will be all over social media in a split second and should at least TRY to think before they utter words. It does suck when someone makes that kind of money and still chooses to be an asshole, but some people just ARE assholes. Just remember DK, the Pens are comin’ for ya!!!

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By: Pants http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17905 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:45:40 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17905 Like Jane Lynch said in these PSAs, there are a number of words that are “not acceptable.” It’s true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T549VoLca_Q

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By: jana http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17904 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:41:42 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17904 Part of me wants to give Segs a pass. I know that’s some bias coming into play, but also because he’s young and will make mistakes. The other part of me counters: Being young is no excuse. Not in this day and age.

I had the same thought as Alison though. Even if he used it not thinking about the actual context, it’s in his vocabulary and most likely, it’s used amongst his friends. And that’s sad.

Personally, I’ve actually asked very close friends to stop using the word “gay” to describe things. As in, “OMG! That’s so gay!” Unfortunately, so many people use that word in this context and they’re not thinking about how derogatory it really is.

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By: Lindsay http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17903 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:15:36 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17903 Everything you said Caitlin. And I think it’s good for us to be “overly sensitive.” Hopefully it challenges people to think first before their moronic words and/or Tweets just happen.

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By: Alison http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17901 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:56:24 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17901 Thanks, Pants! And definitely.. learning moments for all of us! Certainly no one is perfect. Except maybe Sidney. (Joking.. kind of.)

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By: Pants http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17900 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:52:20 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17900 I un-double texted you, don’t worry! It’s not rude or dismissive at all, either. Now that we’re talking about other people watching their words, we are all watching ours so carefully too. Smart girls, we are.

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By: Alison http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17899 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:51:24 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17899 Oh jesus, I don’t know how that double text happened. Rough week, sorry guys.

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By: Alison http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17897 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:50:20 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17897 I think the problem with the Keith comment is that, as Pants put it, it was “so conversationally desperate”.. it was the easy response route to take when there’s a room full of males and you don’t like the question a female reporter is trying, however badly, to ask. Just because it’s easy for your brain to go there, doesn’t mean the words out of your mouth should follow.

And with Seguin, the problem is that that phrase is in his vocabulary at all. If he’s tweeting it, he’s probably said it, without thinking about what it actually means and why it’s hurtful. And that’s, thankfully, where You Can Play steps in. It will be a learning moment for Tyler, which I think is great.

All of that said, obviously, everyone makes mistakes in the things we say. We own them. We learn from them. We all move on.

(I hope this didn’t come off as rude or dismissive, I definitely wasn’t trying to be.)

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By: Caitlin http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17896 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:43:37 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17896 Good post.

If he had said that to someone of a different race implying that they couldn’t understand/play hockey while simultaneously unnecessarily bringing up their race that would obviously be considered disgustingly racist and it should be. Why is bringing up gender when it is irrelevant considered any different?

As for Seguin, it’s not just that saying something like that is wrong; the fact that he thinks like that (and thinks about it enough to write it which takes it to another level) implies he thinks in a discriminatory manner. These comments don’t come from nowhere – you don’t write things even when you’re sleepy if you don’t believe them.

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By: Pants http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17894 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:26:10 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17894 I don’t think you’re being dismissive at all – I think you’re spot on. Lord know I’ve said things, both stupid and reactionary, out of frustration and sleep-deprivation, that I would be horrified to have recorded for all time. Certainly no one is infallible. But there’s no secret when a mic is in your face or you opened Twitter just to write something that you’re putting it out there for everyone to (not) enjoy.

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By: Anne B http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17893 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:24:40 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17893 And even for the Ottawa Sun, he’s an exceptionally inflammatory troll (keeping it clean). He lost any shred of credibility as a writer long ago when he called for deliberately injuring opposing players.

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By: Stephanie http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17892 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:18:29 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17892 I’m not trying to dismiss anything, but I honestly think that people are getting a little too sensitive. The reporter couldn’t handle her own, she chickened out and was trying to get out of asking the question, until Keith called her out. What he said wasn’t great, but they had just lost their worst game of the year, and she was asking a stupid question. Women in “traditionally male” professions have a lot to overcome, and are held to much higher standards because of it. If you’re gonna ask the tough questions, just do it, don’t back out like this woman did. You’re right in that he had no business saying what he did, but listening to this woman failing at her interview just makes me cringe as well. I’m disappointed in Duncs, but this “reporter” makes me angry. Listen to the full audio here http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-duncan-keith-audio-20130423,0,816349.mp3file

As for Seguin, he’s young and made a very minor gaff in a very public domain. Unfortunately for him, he’s a superstar and someone always has to make a big deal out of it. He’s young and he’ll eventually learn not to sleep-tweet, but until then it’s pretty clear that he didn’t mean anything by it, he was just trying to promote his friend.

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By: Vanessa Wieland http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17890 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:07:19 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17890 When I saw and heard the audio, I don’t know– I think Keith was being a dick, but not sexist, because it felt like the female comment wasn’t actually directly related to the “know the game” part, as cause and effect. He’d have said the same thing to a male reporter, too. It felt more like, “Yeah, you’d be the first female ref,” then when she interrupted him to say she can’t skate, that triggered the second train of thought, i.e. “You don’t know what you’re talking about” regarding playing the game.

I don’t know. I like Keith, he’s one of my favorites, but it’s not like it’s his first time being something of an dick.

As for him, Seguin and all the hockey players for that matter, I figure they’re human, and they’re competitive, and sometimes they’re going to be dumb assholes, same as any other human. Too bad they have a microphone in their face when they do it.

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By: Alison http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17889 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:07:10 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17889 Last night, not a great night for hockey on the Twitter. And a nice reminder that even though we love them, hockey players are not infallible.

Though I’m still trying to understand how an article with a third-person penis reference makes it to print. But then again, it is the notorious piece of garbage Ottawa Sun that it came from.

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By: Erin http://whatsupyasieve.com/2013/04/23/asshole-day/#comment-17887 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:59:52 +0000 http://wuys.wpengine.com/?p=16106#comment-17887 Great post – I especially loved what you said about how using a discriminatory term in a casual way doesn’t take away it’s meaning. I’ve come across a few situations like that recently, and you said what I was trying to explain so well.

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